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  Are the wtbts more paranoid of "other information" ?

  by A Paduan in

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  has the wtbts impetous for controlling and prohibiting other information sources become stronger, and more of a focus for control and in regards to who is an apostate ?

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  does earlier literature have the same level of "don't read anything else" in it ?

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  Joe Grundy

  Thanks aniron

  See how much I have learned from this site already? I can recall bits from 29 year old WTs - and I'm not and never was, etc.!
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  Are the wtbts more paranoid of "other information" ?

  by A Paduan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has the wtbts impetous for controlling and prohibiting other information sources become stronger, and more of a focus for control and in regards to who is an apostate ?

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  does earlier literature have the same level of "don't read anything else" in it ?

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  I'm sure I remember reading a post here with an extract which said something like 'You don't need to bother doing your own research because WTBTS has a bunch of experts who do it for you'.

  I think it was in an article connected with college/higher education.

  Sorry, can't be more specific.
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  Latest News In JW Sex Scandal

  by Kenneson in

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  it's the top news at http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_178173758.html .

  see "boy in minister sex scandal speaks to cbs.

  investigators compiling mountain of evidence against suspect.

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  As a matter of policy, police should now be examining every computer to which this man had access.

  Do they have a 'congregation' PC in Kingdom Halls?

  Do the WTBTS Bethel complexes have a computer network, and would he have had access to it? If so, the whole network (or at least the part he had access to) should be examined.

  May prove interesting. I wonder whether the FBI may become involved? (My guess would be 'yes').
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  Child baptism

  by 5thGeneration in

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  why does the society encourages kids to get baptized?.

  1. it becomes a bragging right for the parents.. 2. it puts too much pressure on the kids.. 3. it is unscriptural as jesus astounded the jewish leaders at 12 years old and yet did not himself get baptized until another 18 years later.

  hard to believe that some 12 year old snot in the congregation has a deeper relationship and understanding with god than jesus did!.

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  I may be completely wrong here, but I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that 'baptism' was part of the regular jewish ritual cleansing process - something that people undertook often. Didn't Paul go through this when he was called back to Jerusalem to explain his divergent teachings?

  Can anyone clarify?
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  Do you love/care for people here?

  by lonelysheep in

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  i care about all of you.

  i love some of you and have told you that, some i love and haven't told (yet).

  for some of us, those here truly are family and friends.

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  Actually, what i really feel for a lot of peeps on here (it wouldn't be appropriate for all of them, you understand) is what I felt when my kids were young and we had a thunderstorm.

  I'd like to hug them and tell them it was all OK, nothing was going to hurt them.

  For some of the hot babes this would only be a preliminary, you understand.

  Joe, of the usually platonic supportive class but easily tempted ...
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  Do you love/care for people here?

  by lonelysheep in

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  i care about all of you.

  i love some of you and have told you that, some i love and haven't told (yet).

  for some of us, those here truly are family and friends.

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  Dear Miss Thropic (or may I call you Ann?)

  I'm glad you can recognise irony when you see it!

  I spoke to my JW neighbour yesterday for the first time in ages. I've recently been looking at Mormon history (now, that IS crazy, with all due respect). I made a comment to the effect that while JW foundations were a little weird, Mormons were clean off the planet.

  He wasn't sure whether to agree with me or not.

  Regards
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  Do you love/care for people here?

  by lonelysheep in

  1. jw
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  i care about all of you.

  i love some of you and have told you that, some i love and haven't told (yet).

  for some of us, those here truly are family and friends.

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  Joe Grundy

  Well, I'm a complete outsider, but I have been very heartened by the welcome I've received, and by the answers I've been given to my questions (which I'm sure must have struck some readers as completely dumb).

  For a bunch of crazy ex-dubs, I'd say you were pretty nice peeps!

  And yes, I care for people here.
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  TODAY'S MY BIRTHDAY!!

  by Mary in

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  not my physical birthday, but i just noticed when i logged on this morning, that it was 4 years ago today that i first logged on here.

  i've learned alot on here in the last 4 years i learned about the whole 586/607bce date, i discovered crisis of conscience (which played a major part in my leaving the borg), i've learned about the society's inconsistencies in the blood doctrine, as well as host of other doctrines and issues that i would have never known about in the days before the internet.

  as well, i would have never made contact with those i've become "particularly fond of" on here.

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  Dear Mary

  As an outsider, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you again for you work and dedication here. I have learned so much from you.

  (I may have fallen a little bit in love with you as well).
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  BANNED FROM COLD CALLING in SCOTLAND

  by DannyHaszard in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  knock, knock, who's there?

  no jehovah's witnesses or double ...

  comment box.

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  Joe Grundy

  As has been said before - this is NOT a law.

  It is a neighbourhood policing/community safety response to a big problem. The problem is that criminals use the 'cover' of cold-calling to identify empty properties, or to gain access to the houses of less-than-alert householders to commit crime.

  The effect will be (hopefully) that residents who see people going door-to-door in an affected area will report it to the police who will (hopefully) check it out.

  In UK law generally, there is an 'implied invitation' to anyone to approach your front door for lawful purposes (i.e. anything not illegal) unless the householder specifically makes it clear otherwise.

  'Trespass' is a civil, not criminal, offence in the UK (generally). The 'victim' can sue for damages through the civil courts if they can show a finacial loss.
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  My first time running from the COPS!

  by Kudra in

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  so i was out on my run this morning and i got cut off by a red light.

  aarrrgh!

  i hate it when that happens.

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  Joe Grundy

  I was intrigued to read this thread.

  From my one and only visit to the US, I realise that pedestrians are often regarded as nuisances at best and pests at worst.

  But I had not realised that in some places it is illegal to cross the road other than at specified places or in accordance with signals. Is this true? If so, all I can say (with incrdelulity) is Land of the Free???